SantanaXXL is an adult contenet creator phenomenon. Since he began making videos for site like Xtube and Xvideos, he has single-handedly represented "the big boys!"
I drove down to Philly to meet Santana in his now infamous SUV to talk about his upbringing, his continued growth in the industry, moving into studio porn, and what else he's got in store for us.
[00:00:00] Welcome to Demystifying Gay Porn. My name is Ike Grande and if you watch Gay Porn, I
[00:00:26] definitely help to get off. And I am sitting in Philadelphia, what can we say that? Okay, I am sitting
[00:00:33] in Philadelphia with a Delta entertainer, Santana, XXL. How are you sir? I'm good, how are you?
[00:00:42] I'm well, I'm very, very, thank you very much for agreeing or for letting me into your
[00:00:47] your set. We'll get into that more a little later but thank you so much for doing this.
[00:00:51] Thank you for having me. No problem, I absolutely appreciate it. I'm always I try to reach out to
[00:00:57] content creators and models sometimes that I don't know where I haven't met but I follow
[00:01:01] and you never know what kind of response you're going to get so again I appreciate it. How are
[00:01:05] you? I'm doing good, yeah, I'm doing very well, some nice day beautiful day. It is a beautiful day.
[00:01:12] You know, I'm loving and I'm loving, I feel great, okay, you are fresh back from the Gavians,
[00:01:19] from Vegas but also California, you just got back from doing your first studio partner.
[00:01:24] What was that experience like? Oh man, it was amazing. I had a great time, really good time.
[00:01:32] It was great, they took care of me, they treated me nicely and we did, we'll be dead and you know
[00:01:38] I had a great time. What kind of scene was it? Are you allowed to say yet or?
[00:01:42] It was more a fuck scene or a scene and stuff like that. It was good, I really enjoyed it and
[00:01:50] I would like to do it again. I would definitely do it again. So let's talk a little bit about before
[00:01:54] you know, before going into studio porn and stuff. Let's talk a little bit about your experience.
[00:01:58] So you're from Philadelphia? Okay, born and raised. Well, I didn't really grow up here because
[00:02:03] I was born here but I grew up in Georgia. Okay, so you know, I lived here when I was younger for
[00:02:11] a little bit until I was probably like a, I want to say like 10 maybe 11. Did I lived in Georgia
[00:02:17] for most of my teenage years and then I moved back when I was like, when I was like 20, 20 years old,
[00:02:24] I moved back and stuff but I've been here ever since, ever since then and so. So that
[00:02:30] was all the memory I had of this place like when I was younger. But you enjoyed it enough to
[00:02:37] I mean, yeah. I prefer to South more but yeah. Well part of Georgia. Um, the coastal reason
[00:02:44] part like Savannah part. Oh, Savannah's beautiful. Yeah. Okay, so I could understand. I'm a little
[00:02:51] biased with Philly because I went to school half an hour outside of Philadelphia in New Jersey
[00:02:58] but this was our city for like four years. So I would come and party here all the time. The drive
[00:03:04] here like I was saying before it was really, really cool because I got to listen to songs and
[00:03:08] stuff from when I was in college. We're not gonna go there though. We're talking like the 2000s, right?
[00:03:16] Tell me a little bit about growing up in the South. I had a great time in the South. It was too
[00:03:22] very relaxing. Everybody is so polite in the South. I had a good time. I really, you know,
[00:03:31] I really enjoyed it. I prefer to South over living in North because I just like the slow pace
[00:03:36] that everything and everything is just calm and cool. You move at your own pace and stuff.
[00:03:41] It sounds great. I would, I would move down to the South. I'm just not sure where. I haven't
[00:03:46] experienced it enough. I'm planning on doing like a trip to Atlanta sometime soon because I heard
[00:03:51] it's fun. I've done a couple trips, one trip to Savannah, um, Florida, New Orleans. I love
[00:04:00] all the out of New Orleans. Yeah, yeah. That's a lot of fun. Have you been there for Southern
[00:04:03] Jackadans? I went down there for a cruise one time and we ended up going to Bourbon Street but it
[00:04:10] wasn't a planned thing. And I got so fucked up on Bourbon Street and we didn't leave like
[00:04:16] we didn't leave like the bar or clubs to like, I'm like almost 3 am. We was sort of but the people
[00:04:22] in New Orleans they are so amazing. So nice and friendly and stuff like that. They made sure we got
[00:04:28] banks at a hotel. Okay, we was all miss up but you know I have a good time and I definitely want
[00:04:33] to go back to New Orleans. Depending on how you feel, I mean, I think everybody goes to the
[00:04:38] Martigraw but then there's Southern Decadence in September or August, September. That's always
[00:04:42] a good time. I went there twice it was pretty nuts. Yeah, the whole vibe of New Orleans is so nice.
[00:04:49] I would probably move there for about a year or so just because I think it's cool. They definitely
[00:04:54] do take care of people down there though. Yeah, would you tell me a little bit about
[00:04:59] coming out and did you come out when you were younger? I didn't really have to come out. My family
[00:05:05] already knew. Yeah, they knew. So I didn't really have to come out really like that. You know,
[00:05:10] my parents was very supportive. Everyone in my family is very supportive especially my father
[00:05:15] and my mother and my mother and my father always told me that it was going to let me no matter
[00:05:18] way. So you know, I didn't really have to come out but they kind of already knew but everyone in my
[00:05:26] family is very supportive. Very, very supportive. I'm not the only one in my family so you know,
[00:05:30] like everyone is very supportive. And school, like going to school and stuff, was it tough,
[00:05:37] was it cool? I had a great time in school. Yeah, especially in high school. My god, I had a
[00:05:42] fine at high school. I had a really good time at high school. Well, see, that's cool. The reason
[00:05:47] why I ask is sometimes you have a good experience, sometimes you have a bad experience. There's
[00:05:51] too many all too often bad experiences so if you had a great experience, that's awesome. Like people,
[00:05:57] I like when people hear that, you know, it's not always because I had a great experience in high
[00:06:01] school too. Yeah, there was a couple of people that were kind of digs about it but, you know,
[00:06:06] for the most part, I had a boyfriend in high school. I mean, I did. So I just had fun.
[00:06:11] Like I really had a great time in high school. I didn't have, I didn't have a bad high school experience.
[00:06:16] Everything was fun. I went to me and my sister. We were like a year and a half apart.
[00:06:20] And we went to high school together so we was always having fun. My sister's a party girl.
[00:06:25] So like, you know, we always have fun together there and stuff. So you know, it was great.
[00:06:30] So tell me a little bit about your relationship with porn growing up. When you found it, let's say,
[00:06:35] how you found it? What was some of your sights? So be honest with you. I didn't watch a lot of
[00:06:40] porn growing up though. Like I didn't watch a lot of porn. Like honestly, I wasn't even really
[00:06:45] familiar with a lot of the big names at first. You know what I mean? Like I just started playing
[00:06:51] with different things and I will watch it here in here but I wasn't really like familiar with it.
[00:06:55] And I didn't have a specific type of porn. I liked the watch. If I liked it and got all
[00:07:01] to it, I was just watching. Like you know, I didn't have any picks about porn. What about sexually?
[00:07:08] Right. When did you become sexually active to the point where you're like, oh okay.
[00:07:15] I didn't really become sexually active so I was like 17.
[00:07:18] 17? Okay. Because I wasn't really thinking about sex and stuff and stuff and stuff and
[00:07:22] like I wasn't really thinking about sex then but when I started 17, that's when I really started
[00:07:28] like started having sex and stuff like that. And it just started taking off from there.
[00:07:34] Hey, you really started taking off from there. Can I ask how old you are?
[00:07:38] I'm 33. 33. Okay. Between 17 and 33, when do you move to Philadelphia when do you move back?
[00:07:45] I was probably like 21. 21. 21. Okay. Let's talk a little bit about Only Fans. Right? Only
[00:07:51] Fans and Just For Fences. Are those? I'm more fan-sleeved so. Fan-slee? Okay. When did you make your
[00:07:56] first video? Okay. So before I was on Only Fans, Fans, and All Those Pays sites,
[00:08:04] I started on X2 videos in Hordehub and I posted my first videos on X2 and X videos.
[00:08:14] When I did my first video, I didn't know how I was going to do. Like I was like you know,
[00:08:20] I wanted to like do something a little bit different and then show what I can do and stuff like that
[00:08:25] and I also wanted to rest my big voice. So I posted my first video on my first video,
[00:08:29] hit a million views off of X2 and X videos on stuff. The rest is pretty much history. Like I just
[00:08:37] started being consistent since the very beginning with my time. I was like 22 when I started
[00:08:44] because I've been making content for almost 10 years. I just been very consistent about me putting
[00:08:49] my time and stuff and I just started to put out videos and it just took off and then people wanted
[00:08:55] to see more and I just started posting more. This is way before I was even on Twitter in
[00:09:01] Tumblr because I was on Twitter at 1.2. Yeah, and I had already built like a following on X videos
[00:09:08] and all those sites in Hordehub and stuff. So I had already had like a following before
[00:09:13] I even got once what or anything like that. All right, so you know, I keep forgetting that we did have
[00:09:20] X2. We had X videos and we had porn hub. They just weren't set up the way for instance like
[00:09:27] the fan sites were set up. However, you can post videos, you can gain fans. Did they have a subscription
[00:09:34] based at that point for like your videos, for instance? I think they had one for X2 videos but
[00:09:40] I didn't use that. I think in the beginning it was more so about me getting my work out there.
[00:09:45] Like, I spent a lot of time getting my work out there to get it seen because that was the most
[00:09:49] important thing for me first than just making the money at first. Just like make sure my stuff got
[00:09:54] seen. But when only fans came about, I joined it like when he was like in beta mode,
[00:10:00] like in the beginning when it first started but at first, a lot of people don't know like
[00:10:07] when I first started, there were some people that were really against having my work out there.
[00:10:14] They was entertaining some porn sites that told big names, told me I was never going to be
[00:10:19] able to be successful. And that my concept was never going to sell you, my husband, I'd even try
[00:10:26] to do this because nobody is not going to see a big boy doing this. They didn't say big boys.
[00:10:32] That's something else. Was that in my comments or was they?
[00:10:36] No, they said it directly to me.
[00:10:40] There were some big name porn stars that were just like you're just not going to sell,
[00:10:44] you're not going to like no one is never going to like your work, you're not going to make it for.
[00:10:48] And a lot of people, they didn't see it for me. They didn't see me like ever being successful
[00:10:54] because they haven't seen many big boys that in this business and this industry and stuff
[00:11:00] make it. And that right there fueled me, I'm the type of person like if you tell me I can't do this
[00:11:06] or know or anything like that, I'm going to prove you wrong. Like I'm going to like it really drives
[00:11:13] me when people discredit me and doubt me and they're not saying anything and stuff like that.
[00:11:19] So when I first joined OnlyFans my first day when I joined OnlyFans, I ended up having a thousand
[00:11:25] subscribers within the first day. Yeah. After that, I knew that I could do this. Like I knew
[00:11:31] right then and there I can do this. Fuck the haters. Fuck what they got to say. You know what I mean?
[00:11:35] I'm just going to keep on doing it. I know people are going to be angry and man it's up but whatever
[00:11:41] they'll get over it. That was my whole thing. And you know, Ryan Sibaz, he was one of the big creators
[00:11:47] at the time that was so supportive of me. Like he was giving me words of encouragement
[00:11:52] and everything. So I was just happy, you know, I wanted to refer my big boys and stuff, you know.
[00:11:58] So tell me about big boys. Tell me about how that plays into your work, how that plays.
[00:12:03] Give me a little idea because it's not usually prevalent out there, right? Yeah.
[00:12:09] When it comes to my big boys and a lot of big boys at Rich House again tell me they love the word
[00:12:14] they love what I'm doing. They love to see that see representation of bigger men and stuff
[00:12:22] like that. And they give me words of encouragement and a lot of big boys would be like, oh I would like
[00:12:27] to do this. I would like to do what you do and stuff like that but I just I don't want to have to
[00:12:31] do with the trolls and negative comments and stuff like that. And I say if you want to do this
[00:12:37] then do it. Fuck with anyone has to say because you know people are going to say mean things all the
[00:12:43] time. I mean everybody's not going like everything and you know, you know, if this is something that
[00:12:48] you want to do go ahead, go for it. You can't worry about what the trolls say because they're going
[00:12:52] to always talk people talk about me even said this day. So I just want to work for them and give
[00:12:57] them representation and let them know we can do this. Like you know what I mean? Your first video if
[00:13:02] you think about it now, what does it look like compared to the video you just posted last week? Let's
[00:13:08] say a lot of growth. Yeah. A lot of growth. My work has definitely changed though. I like the video
[00:13:17] quality is better than what it was because when I started, I was recording off of a bus to iPhone 7.
[00:13:26] I was recording off of a bus to iPhone 7 and stuff. And you know, I made like such a videos.
[00:13:35] When you said I'm going to or did you say I'm going to record myself
[00:13:42] blowing guys because I know that I'm really good at it. When did you find out you were good?
[00:13:47] I mean, I kind of I kind of already knew that I was good at it because with people with say,
[00:13:53] say I don't never call myself, oh, I'm the best. I'm the best. That's the title that the
[00:13:57] guys give me. The fans give me or the people that interactively gave me. But you know, I've always
[00:14:03] known that I was good and when I really knew I was good is when I gave somebody a stroke. So I have
[00:14:08] a stroke one. What's that? Yeah, somebody had a stroke. Somebody had a stroke. It's actually filmed.
[00:14:16] Like I actually, y'all I actually have it on videos in my content. He's okay. He was okay.
[00:14:22] He was good. The evidence had to come but he was fine. He was fine. He liked it because he came
[00:14:29] with the camera. But we met up again and stuff. You know, he had a stroke. I had to stop. Yeah. And then
[00:14:36] called the ambulance and stuff. And he came out and he left in the ambulance all kinds of stuff.
[00:14:43] It wasn't like one of those half strokes. You know, we're happy. He does not respond. And I was
[00:14:49] getting old. Oh, no, no. I was really scared. I was scared for him. But you know, he was
[00:14:54] cool after that. And he wanted he wanted that the I'm thrown again. So and it happened again. But
[00:15:00] he didn't have a stroke this like as well. So, you know, so your has it always been
[00:15:06] and I know you did a couple of scenes in the rooms in Las Vegas. But has it always been
[00:15:13] in your car? Most of my things are in my car. I do some inside. But normally when I do stuff inside
[00:15:20] it's like mainly more than just here. I might be asked or get fucked or you know do other things
[00:15:29] aside. But in Vegas, I mean, I wasn't driving in Vegas. So, you know, everything was like
[00:15:35] in my room. Like, you know, so not everything is in the club. I'm majority of my pants. I'm
[00:15:40] in the car. I only ask because I think that and I mentioned it before off camera that
[00:15:44] the overhead is really not anything. I mean, it's it's this is spacious. How many how many men
[00:15:52] would you say have sat in this chair that I'm sitting in right now? I was saying like how much speed
[00:15:59] how much speed has been spilled or taken in it right here? Well, it's been in many cars but like
[00:16:06] I would say like a good maybe like a good hundred. Okay. Those 500s when they miss car. All right.
[00:16:11] When you go about approaching guys, you started up predominantly with with just guys that you would
[00:16:20] hook up with or yeah. So when I when I first started with doing concept it was guys locally. Like
[00:16:28] guys that I was from that locally or hook up with and stuff like that. They didn't have a problem
[00:16:32] with recording and stuff so when I asked them they would be like yes. You know what I mean? Wow,
[00:16:38] cool. Okay. Yeah. So it wouldn't take them long to like say yes. So I would just start doing it
[00:16:43] that way and then those videos will go viral and then other creators from other cities were hitting
[00:16:48] me up and then they would be like okay, I like the work with you or I'll hit them up and they'll be
[00:16:52] like yes, I'm a lot of work with you. And then we come out here and then we'll just do what we do
[00:16:57] yeah because I see I've seen a couple people come through like flying. I saw people in some other
[00:17:03] countries. Yeah, they come work with me. Yes. And people that came in from other countries
[00:17:09] and other cities and stuff like that to come work with me. Yeah. So you are at this point one
[00:17:15] man shop when it comes to production as a lot of people are but you know the percentage or
[00:17:21] percentile that you are with content creation, you are capable of okay, well I shouldn't should
[00:17:28] I say that that's here or no? No. I'm even by doing it on your absolutely right okay,
[00:17:38] I assume they stay here in the area and stuff and okay, all right, have you ever had an issue with
[00:17:44] people passing by? No, not really not here like that. I mean it was one person that
[00:17:50] that was over here and he was staring a little bit but I doesn't stop or so. I still keep going
[00:17:56] what? It doesn't stop or so because eventually they'll leave you know yeah, yeah like production
[00:18:03] is production. Yeah, we're going to keep it going. If the person I'm filming with is okay,
[00:18:08] would it be going to keep it going? Okay cool. I've noticed that oh and congratulations you've
[00:18:13] you've sucked 600 guys on camera. I saw that you posted that recently. You have been doing
[00:18:20] other stuff and the first time I think I will first informals quick shout out to Derek Line
[00:18:25] and Boomer Banks who have been on the podcast and have been in your car and you've worked at them
[00:18:33] but the first time I think I saw and I know you said you mentioned that you have done other stuff
[00:18:39] but the first time I think I saw a video of you getting a blowjob or anything outside of you
[00:18:46] sucking was with Boomer Banks. Yeah, it was that experience. Oh my god, it was so amazing. He was
[00:18:52] really great, really nice stuff you know he came down here and we filmed we filmed the scene in
[00:18:58] the car we filmed the scene inside and stuff like that and like he was amazing he was great to work
[00:19:04] you know very nice very friendly you know I had a great experience with him and everything felt nice too
[00:19:11] so yeah everything was good. And Derek oh he was amazing too. You know I worked with him a while ago
[00:19:20] and he was amazing he came down here we did the same thing in the car I spoke and he was
[00:19:24] very nice and very chill and we had a good time yeah I had a great time with both of them. Okay
[00:19:30] you've record but you also edit you post you do all this stuff when you're watching back
[00:19:38] because I've noticed some of your your cuts focus on faces. When did that become a thing? When
[00:19:44] the did you were you like okay well this is gonna work. Everything on my content is authentic
[00:19:50] everything that you see on my content is actually happening and people like to see the facial
[00:19:56] reactions to you know getting the sense and it blows up or you know what I mean like they just love
[00:20:02] to see the reactions and all the reactions in my videos are real and like I want to capture that
[00:20:08] you know what I mean so that's really important for me that they capture like the facial expressions
[00:20:13] of what's going on in the video because everything that's happening in the video is actually happening
[00:20:18] because some people with they will say oh he must be the why they overact the reactant and
[00:20:24] overact them and stuff like that they're not acting everything that you see is 100% real my content
[00:20:30] everything I speak to a lot of models I speak to a lot of content creators you have
[00:20:35] from what I'm getting because I know we just met but we haven't been speaking for a while on stuff
[00:20:40] you have this producer mentality where if you're already seeing hey this is what these guys want
[00:20:46] to see you know what you're doing how does your comment point where you're like I this is a lot of
[00:20:54] work I need somebody else to come in and help or or how do you how do you go about your production
[00:20:59] process being in this business and being independent and being a creator it's a lot of where
[00:21:04] you can become a lot sometimes because you have to keep going you know if it's your own work
[00:21:09] it's your business it should brand whatever you know I I do everything myself I do all my editing
[00:21:16] shooting and bookings everything I never felt like I needed to bring anyone in I don't know
[00:21:23] I don't like giving controls to other people over myself you know what I mean I like to be
[00:21:28] in control on my things and all my work and stuff like that so I never really thought about it
[00:21:34] I just like I like it though I like what I do even though it gets hard sometimes you know sometimes
[00:21:39] she feel like you can feel overwhelmed sometimes but you know I love what I do you know I just
[00:21:45] work the way how's every come a time where everything is set up you're ready to go and you guys are
[00:21:50] just not feeling it either you're not feeling it or the other person's not feeling it or something
[00:21:54] no that's awesome I've never really had a bad experience with anyone I work with everybody I've
[00:22:00] worked with it's been really cool that's awesome you know yeah I mean some people be nervous like
[00:22:06] when they come and like film with me and stuff like that because they don't know with this but
[00:22:10] because a lot of times there'd be some guys that I work with and it'd be their first time
[00:22:15] ever late recording or ever even like doing anything with a guy oh boy okay yeah
[00:22:21] like so I've had people in my in my videos as first time experience with a guy or doing any kind
[00:22:27] of recording and you're doing all that and one you know what I mean but I've never really had a bad
[00:22:33] experience with anything what's your favorite kind of experience like what email or what text message
[00:22:38] or what what message do you like getting they're like oh this is gonna be hot but when they be like
[00:22:44] when they get all excited so like film with me because some men they'd be really excited like
[00:22:50] oh I can't wait to be in your video I can't wait the work which I can't wait to be in the car
[00:22:55] with you and I'm just like oh wow he really excited oh that gets me excited so yeah that's
[00:23:01] what I like when the person that I work with gets excited about Critt and Conzo you know
[00:23:08] what do you think the secret is to a good below job a great blow job I don't think it's a secret
[00:23:13] I don't think this is secret I think the thing is you really you really have to have a love for
[00:23:19] like you have to really you have to really love sucking dick or you know blowing somebody in the
[00:23:25] order of it do you love sucking dick hell yeah oh yeah guy too I really do do you prefer
[00:23:34] sucking dick over having like like fucks like a I don't you know where I don't mind getting
[00:23:40] fucked either I don't mind getting fucked but the most the one of the things that I love just
[00:23:46] this is good it's giving him if I love to eat ass yeah I just look who I really really
[00:23:51] do so those are my two top but yeah I can fuck myself I'm on a power bottom right thing but I
[00:23:58] can definitely take dick I just think of um sucks scenes like they're just right to the point
[00:24:05] you no one has to like prep you know already be like that other than a shower baby or
[00:24:12] I saw a post that you had you're like all dicks yeah yeah I like all sizes all sizes on shapes all
[00:24:21] okay I like all sizes big smaller you know I don't have any pics I felt like all dicks to be
[00:24:29] service where do you think other than being gay where do you think your love of dick came from
[00:24:36] I don't know I just like to give I just like to give I just like to give pleasure yeah like you
[00:24:42] know so that was always my thing I just wanted to make dicks feel good so that was always my
[00:24:50] thing like I just want people to feel good feel good about when they bust up my content or my videos
[00:24:57] as I'm or or in person you know so it's all about making the dicks feel good we spoke about it
[00:25:06] a little bit before but you went to the Gavians this year um I saw you on the red carpet
[00:25:11] strutting it on the red carpet what was that experience like for you was that your first award
[00:25:15] experience or yes how was nominated for two Gavian awards and it was my first time going to the
[00:25:22] Gavians and I had a great time I was there with B.C.B. Jacobi Rahim, Arke Anzer, Eric Hall
[00:25:32] they were very they were very nice to me and you know I had a great time with them and
[00:25:37] B.C.B. Arke Anzer when everyone made me feel so comfortable being there because I was nervous
[00:25:42] to shit I ain't gonna lie to you I was so nervous because it was my first time you know everybody
[00:25:47] was coming up to me saying hey Sam Sam Sam Sam because I went to the expo too and you know the
[00:25:53] expo you know you take pictures with fans and you see other people in the industry and people were
[00:25:59] coming up to me taking pictures I was just coming to get a pass everybody would come up to me
[00:26:04] want to take pictures I was down there for three hours I was only supposed to be down there for 30 minutes
[00:26:09] but everybody wanted a picture and everybody's like hi Sam Sam Sam Sam Sam Sam Sam Sam Sam Sam Sam Sam
[00:26:13] you know some people were meeting me for the very first time you know because the only
[00:26:18] place that they ever seen me was over the internet so a lot of people was seeing me for the very
[00:26:22] first time you know I want to do something wanted to do something different so I had a great time
[00:26:27] that red carpet was everything it was amazing everyone was nice me ball and big zipper
[00:26:33] interviewing me on the red carpet that was really nice yeah I had a great experience I got
[00:26:37] to sit in the front row with the best you know and I had a great fun do you ever not that you
[00:26:43] mentioned this no I'm jumping for a second but do you ever just outside of an event like this
[00:26:51] go shopping or just infillier something like that and get people that are like oh hey
[00:26:58] here yeah like in this area in my city I do like people will come up to me I've been in
[00:27:05] it's crazy thing it's always happens in a food place or restaurant that I go to
[00:27:10] there's somebody who recognize me or they'll say something but in a restaurant they don't say
[00:27:14] nothing up front you know what they do they'll message me like on the grinder or jack or twitter
[00:27:19] is like oh you know I was your waiter or your waitress and I seen you in the restaurant or so
[00:27:24] and then somebody um I was in the McDonald's drive through one time and one of the guys came
[00:27:29] up to me is like I love your culture I love your work and stuff like that how do you get them guys
[00:27:35] I was like you know I just ask you your secret oh no like just thinking you're gonna give it up
[00:27:43] but I don't even be a secret like you know like I reach out to people I ask them if they would
[00:27:49] like to work with me they even say yes I know most of the time they say yes and that's just
[00:27:54] be what it is like people will be like do we he be don't want to get these me and these
[00:27:58] maybe I'm doing nothing I just ask them if they would like to be in a video or sometimes they'll
[00:28:02] come to me you know it's thanks so it's so funny I was I was so tempted to like bring a model
[00:28:09] from New York with me but then I was like oh that's gonna be a production I was like let me not
[00:28:13] and I was like and what nerve I have to what am I gonna do cinnamon in the back and be like
[00:28:17] say I'm gonna blow like what if you're what if you were to enter but um there yeah you know
[00:28:24] because a lot of stuff goes through my head whenever because this is an audio visual podcast so
[00:28:28] it goes online and then it goes on YouTube and it also goes on wherever people get podcasts
[00:28:34] and stuff okay so you just flew back from California you did your first studio scene
[00:28:39] does this mean that you are going to maybe segue into more studio stuff or
[00:28:47] what do you think is gonna happen I mean if if a studio won't want to work with me I'm down for it
[00:28:54] you know I would definitely do it again if I'm if I'm asked to do it again you know what I mean
[00:28:59] like if a studio reached out to me be like say we would like the work with you or something like
[00:29:03] that I'm down for it just gotta let me know like if I came to Philly in a month and we do succines
[00:29:10] and I say hey would you be down for a sexy yeah yeah you don't judge where I love to have you
[00:29:15] yeah okay okay I really like the whole production of it all so yeah when you think back
[00:29:23] at these models who told you couldn't do it 10 years ago that's it so where you are now
[00:29:32] I mean it was work I know it was work but what do you how does it feel it's like it's like me
[00:29:42] giving the middle finger up so everyone said I couldn't do it and the crazy thing is a lot of
[00:29:47] those people came back and apologized to me some of them people pretty big and they apologized for
[00:29:53] the things they said and you know and you know it's all good and stuff and some people some of
[00:30:00] those other people that said negative things are now asking them to work with me you know I'm just
[00:30:05] out here doing my thing you know if you tell me I can't do something I'm going to show you like
[00:30:11] I'm that's just what it is I'm gonna show you it's just in me to do that with every positive
[00:30:17] comment or message you get you have to also take the negative ones yeah and you do and you come
[00:30:24] about them online I see you not to make it you know I don't want to make it about them but they're
[00:30:29] out there yeah what's what's your overall message for for people who try to troll like what's
[00:30:38] like why well listen like you know when they come to trolls themselves I don't go back and forth
[00:30:46] for anyone and everybody be like oh Santa no why don't you clap back why don't you say that and why
[00:30:52] don't you clap back and this day and the third I don't have to clap back because I'm out here
[00:30:57] winning bitch like I don't have to clap back I don't have to say anything and all the other stuff
[00:31:03] I'm never going back and forth with a person that wants to be where I'm at like you know what I mean
[00:31:08] that wants to success that I got so I'm never going back and forth with a person with a jealous person
[00:31:14] or a troll or a hater that want to be where I'm at so I pay that dust you know I get death threats
[00:31:21] every day really yeah but people wishing you dead and all kinds of stuff because they feel like
[00:31:26] oh I shouldn't be where I'm at or or they have an issue with me filming with a hot guy or it's
[00:31:33] something like that but you know I don't care you could say whatever you want to say you don't know
[00:31:38] me you don't know what I've been through like you know you know what I mean I pay them dust I find
[00:31:44] it funny though I really find it funny when 80s be trying to troll me and say come all kinds of
[00:31:49] things and you saying how to say oh since in a video this trash you can suck dick he can't do this
[00:31:55] he can't do that but I've been nominated for 11 awards I don't have to say anything else the
[00:32:03] studios are coming to you yeah they come in the studios are reaching out to me you know what I mean
[00:32:08] and now you have grabby too right grabbing nominations yeah I have three Grammy nominations I'm
[00:32:15] nominated for performer of the year best doable rock shows are a video that I did with
[00:32:21] rock stars got nominated and I'm also nominated for just for fans American fan favorite
[00:32:27] very very cool are you gonna find yourself in Chicago oh yeah I don't know it's my first time
[00:32:32] in Chicago yeah you're gonna suck some dick in Chicago hell yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
[00:32:37] go to where so I hold a lucid in my bed yeah yeah but I'm looking forward to that first time in
[00:32:45] Chicago first grabbies I'm just excited even if I don't win I'm just happy to like you know
[00:32:52] you know be recognized and you know for the award nominations and stuff and the experience
[00:32:57] yeah the parties are fun yeah yeah that's always fun um I think you'll have a great time Chicago
[00:33:02] is there any city that you have not been to yet that you're like international or anything
[00:33:07] that you're like I can definitely suck dick here I want to go to London yeah I want to I would like
[00:33:12] to go to the UK and I would like to go to San Francisco and I would like to go to LA I've never
[00:33:17] been to LA oh you haven't been to LA I think it's I think it's coming because for some reason LA
[00:33:26] is calling my name for some reason but we'll see what happens you know there's a talent pool that
[00:33:32] you are I know if people are living in Iraq and don't know where to find Santana XXO where do they
[00:33:46] go to find you um you can go and X um my Twitter is um Santana XX LLL and you can reach me
[00:33:57] all my links for you stuff is under there um I'm also on Instagram and Santana XXL underscore world
[00:34:05] that's my Instagram and you know going there you could also find me on porpoor you go also find me
[00:34:11] on X videos and stuff like that I'm everywhere honestly you are I'm just not on a TikTok or um
[00:34:18] snapchat it would be very hard to get on TikTok yeah I mean I have well but you know they they
[00:34:22] take my they took my stuff there um that's how it was with me on Twitter oh my oh my god I was
[00:34:27] getting suspended on Twitter left and right I had to start my platform is over and over and over
[00:34:32] again until I got to a place where you know that is fine really even like Twitter is giving you
[00:34:39] a problem with that yes because people were studying reporting my my account oh okay I was through
[00:34:44] 10 Twitter pages what yeah cuz my last page that I had had 500k them and next day I got suspended
[00:34:52] but then I lost I thought that was going to start the whole platform over but I got back so
[00:34:57] where I'm in and over and plus but then they gave me back my um that page that was
[00:35:03] suspended with the 500k so I got to them so they gave it back to me I got most of my
[00:35:09] pages back now but you know that's how it wasn't a beginning like people were just so again yeah
[00:35:15] against me putting my content people were really against it like they really was but you know
[00:35:20] and here you are yeah I have to I have to thank you very much for welcoming me into your car sharing
[00:35:28] space with me uh and bringing me back to Philly for a sec so we can talk um I absolutely appreciate it
[00:35:35] I'm sure these guys all appreciate it too thank you I'm very very grateful for you say that
[00:35:41] and I wish you nothing but the best when it comes thank you thank you of course I was wondering
[00:35:49] I was like is he a hugger or I walk up to everybody I'm like hey how you doing yeah I'm a
[00:35:57] teddy bear for real I always hope you you've been watching deem Mr. Fine gay porn I'm your host
[00:36:02] Ike Ganande Demi's Define Gay porn is available on every podcast directory as well as YouTube
[00:36:09] demis Define Gay porn is on x instagram facebook telegram and if you like what you're watching or
[00:36:15] listening to and want to be a part of the creative process head over to patreon.com backslash deemis
[00:36:20] Define Gay porn where you can help support this audio visual podcast and youtube channel
[00:36:25] and I can continue making content like you've just enjoyed once again this is deemis Define Gay porn
[00:36:30] my name is ike Ganande and if you watch gay porn I've definitely helped to get off cheers