S4E20: The 2nd Sean Duran Interview

[00:00:03] Welcome to Demystifying Gay Porn. My name is Ike Que Grande and if you watch gay porn, I've definitely helped to get off. And back again for Season 4 is a podcast favorite adult entertainer Sean Duran. Thank you so much for coming back. Thank you for having me. No problem.

[00:00:37] You know, it was yeah. Salud. Thank you so much. Well, this is very nice. Good, right? This is nice. Yeah, just so you went out and try to get Jack Daniels. Yeah, but this is very similar to Jack Daniels. I don't know.

[00:00:54] Do you do you drink Jack Daniels often? I drink bourbon Jack Daniels not so much but I have no problem with Jack. What I'm just thinking I don't know. I always have this thought in my head and no one else can

[00:01:05] corroborate with us, but I feel like it has a banana E taste to it. Hmm, but you recommended that we have a bourbon while we talk maybe loosen some more lips or I needed it. How's your week been? You've been in the city to do some shoots.

[00:01:21] You've worked with me for Treasure Island and every time you come in and try to see what we can we can get together and yeah, yeah, I was great. What else did you do while you're here? I've walked a lot. I've been rained on quite a bit.

[00:01:35] That's pretty much it. Are you did some escorting right? Yeah client better. Okay, so we'll go over all that stuff but I want to know a little bit about what's been going on in the past year or in the past two years since we've seen each other.

[00:01:46] It really feels like it was not that long ago. Yeah, but it but it was during that trip to New York. I was on grinder and I met my now boyfriend because I sent my grinder to Fort Lauderdale. So I like to just do it in advance.

[00:01:59] I don't know. That's making life difficult for myself, but I've met him and then like we've been together ever since okay, and now you guys are you live in Fort Lauderdale for a little bit. Yeah, and then we lived in LA for six months and then now

[00:02:12] we live back in my hometown of Castonia North Carolina. What was LA like fucking awful? Why it was so awful and I wouldn't have moved back to Gastonia from Miami. I would like never but some I moved back because my mom needed

[00:02:25] help with this new business that she started. So I'm now an ice cream man driving an ice cream truck and um, and so she was like, would you want to come home and help me? I know I'm like, I'll fucking do it anything to get out of

[00:02:39] LA just get me out of this place and we landed there because we were on like a country ride road trip. We just going across the country and stuff and we just got tired of it and we were just in LA. I'm like, let's just fucking live here.

[00:02:51] It was like, okay, we'll just went on Craigslist found our apartment. We're like this place is gross. That's pretty cool though. The fact that you were just like whatever. Let's just live here. Have you ever lived?

[00:03:00] I know you worked a lot in LA but living there is obviously a different experience than yeah. Yeah. What did you dislike most about how far everything is like to go to the gym would take like 45. You do need a car almost everywhere. You go, right?

[00:03:13] Yeah, and it's just God. It was just we were losing weight. I was losing weight so much because it took so much to go the gym took so much to go get food and we had like a tiny apartment with like barely a kitchen.

[00:03:23] So it's like everything was just such a task and I just didn't feel like doing that task. So it's nothing about like the people there or nothing about I think everybody in LA was great people in LA were very nice.

[00:03:33] There's a lot of homeless people people living in campers on the side of the road and tents and nobody. There's no rules. Nobody does anything about it and I'm like that can't deal with this shit. I spent a little bit of time last year in Los Angeles and

[00:03:47] a couple of different places and everywhere you went Koreatown right in the middle of Los Angeles. They were just homeless people and it's unfortunate, but it's an unfortunate truth and it sucks but let's not let's not let's not that could open up another can of worms and

[00:04:05] we can talk about that on another podcast. How about let me drink this drink then I'll talk all about it. Yeah, you know what? I might I might bastardize this a little bit. I'm going to put some coke in there if I can.

[00:04:14] God and Coke zero with that. Well, you see I'm not having sugar. I've given up on big sugar and and how it's just that so then what are you gonna get fake sugar? That's what I know and you know what the funny thing is

[00:04:26] is the liquor is not the best thing for your body either. However, I do enjoy to have a drink and I mean if you have I do like Jack and Coke's I like Cuba Líderes and stuff like

[00:04:37] that, right if I can minimize the sugar in it, I feel better about it. See it just I can't I love coke. I drink coke but only like regular coke. I can't drink anything diet. It makes me immediately sick. The Coke zero is not that bad.

[00:04:50] No don't know. No, I swear. No, I've had it. I've tried it. Okay, if you said all these different like diet and like a regular coke I can know which one is regular coke people like oh you can't tell the difference like get the fuck out of here.

[00:05:01] I'll get a headache and I'll start throwing up. I can absolutely tell the difference. It's just a matter of just you know that familiar taste but there's so much sugar in in in Coca-Cola like it's it's insane. I'm shocked.

[00:05:13] I don't I wasn't really a big drinker when it came to like soft drinks and stuff like that. But when I have when I have a drink, yeah, I want to do that. So when I did this thing last year where I was like no sugar no carbs.

[00:05:24] I was like well fuck I got to find an alternative and this was the best one this one and diet Dr. Pepper. I don't know if you've ever had diet Dr. Pepper, but I've had it but yeah, you don't only only like

[00:05:34] right when it came out to be like, okay, let's fucking see I'm like disgusting. Dr. Pepper is everything where I'm from. Yeah, Dr. Pepper and Sun Drop. We have Sun Drop and that if you want to talk about sweet

[00:05:45] you'll get that and yeah, you won't be able to go to sleep. Yeah, it's like liquid. It's liquid meth, you know, it's basically how much sugar there is. Yeah, it's crazy. You wanted to be a truck driver. You're kind of a truck driver now technically.

[00:05:59] Yeah, but I don't need the license for it turns out. I'm really bad at backing shit up. Really fucking mad at it. God, man. I could not keep that fucking trailer straight. So okay. So what happened was I was doing that class and whatever and

[00:06:11] the school that I was going to I was like, I'm having a lot of problems with the school and then I went on Google reviews and every hundreds of reviews saying the exact same shit as me about this school. It's extremely unorganized and impossible to get into classes

[00:06:25] like you had to wait in like a two hour long line to get a ticket to go to the class. And then every week you had to wait in that line to make the class schedule and then every day you go to class you had to

[00:06:36] wait in that line to get a ticket. I'm like, can they not just write our name on a list and be like, oh, I'm here. I gotta go get a physical ticket and you have to pay for it too. Yeah, so crazy.

[00:06:45] That's but what really happened was I guess about end of September 2021. I had this really catastrophic motorcycle wreck brewing and I wasn't able to walk for two months and I had to go to the hospital and I lost a bunch of shit.

[00:07:01] So I was just like by the time I was done like I already forgot everything about truck driving. So I will try to go back. I'm like, this is just too much. I'm just not gonna fucking worry about this because I had I

[00:07:10] had to sell my car my Corvette that I loved. I mean it was costing me so much to like like a thousand dollars in repairs and gas and shit a month $40 a day in Miami.

[00:07:20] So I just had to give it up and then I had to give up my motorcycle because it was it was wrecked and then I couldn't walk and then I finally was able to walk my landlord sold

[00:07:31] my house and kicked me out after five years like with no warning. She was like, oh you're not on a lease anymore. So you have 30 days and they started tearing the house down around me as I was still living there like started like knocking out walls.

[00:07:44] I'm like, okay, I guess I'll fucking leave now. Then that's before you met your boyfriend and move to Los Angeles. No, that was like right after I met my boyfriend. Okay. Yeah, two months after I met my boyfriend.

[00:07:52] That's when I had the wreck and then he had to take care of me. It's like this is not what I fucking signed up for. Yeah, but he's still with you. Yeah, right. Okay. How is how is North Carolina treating you? How's being back home? It's really good.

[00:08:04] Both of us have gained a lot of weight. I'm cooking a lot and we're going to the gym every day. Everything is so convenient and people are so nice there. It's so nice to just like walk down the street and just be

[00:08:15] able to talk to people, you know, and they say hi. Yeah, everybody says hi. How are you? Blah blah blah. So nice. I wanted to do the podcast like the last day that you were here just because that way there's no stress or anything,

[00:08:27] but that meant we couldn't really talk all that much because we wanted to catch up on camera and on audio. I said no, don't talk to me. Save it. Don't ask me anything. Don't make me make any jokes. I'm not doing anything until what that camera is on.

[00:08:42] As an escort you're asked to do a lot of different things. Oh, and first of all before we get into that, did you escort before you were in modeling or did you do modeling and then escorting? Yeah. That's how it usually goes.

[00:08:54] Okay, because people like oh, I'm going to be porn star like I'm going to be so rich. No, you got to go fuck this whole band too. That's the trick. And does it also help to have like a star status in the porn industry?

[00:09:09] Well, you know what and people have told me that and then I think I'm like, oh, of course. Yeah, because people know you so that they want to meet but also I think the other flip side is I think it hinders you

[00:09:18] from a lot of people because you don't want to be some people don't want the boy next door or like, you know, just a regular guy who's not flashy and like going to draw attention themselves. You know what I mean?

[00:09:30] So I think a lot of people don't want people who are already known when you get calls. Is it like people that are like, oh, I want you to be nasty. I want you to do this.

[00:09:38] I want you do they see the persona that you are in your videos and that's exactly what they're expecting. Yeah, that's why I don't know if you noticed in most of my recent videos like I'm not now like I'm trying to be more

[00:09:48] Sensual and not like a fuck because I don't want people wanting that for me because I don't like doing it. It's really difficult. I can do it for like a couple minutes on camera until they say cut but then I'm just like, okay, what do I say next?

[00:09:59] Like what's it? What's like a dirty thing to say? I don't know because I don't know how to talk dirty. You're not a shit talker. You're not a dirty talker. Okay, you are more such a turn off to me.

[00:10:08] Okay, that's and it does come through on on your more recent scenes, but tell me okay. So the thing I found funny about this was so escorts or clients will call and ask for certain things when they ask for the boyfriend experience. What do you do?

[00:10:25] What do you tell? Well, I asked them like so like what do you mean boyfriend experience because everybody has a different idea of what a with their relationships going to be like with her boyfriend like, oh, you know just hot sex and and you know, lovemaking

[00:10:38] and like just like Jerry talking like yeah, that's not what boyfriends do I can give you my boyfriend's phone number and he can tell you that I'm just going to ask you what you want to eat for an hour or like flip through Netflix.

[00:10:48] Did you want to watch that? Is that what you want to watch do you want to watch that? Okay. Well, that's my time. I got to go. There's no sex you can you can call my boyfriend right now, which is funny. How long have you guys been dating?

[00:10:58] You didn't been dating for almost two years. Two years. Okay. All right, two years August August 7th. When does the comfort level set in when you with your boyfriends but what do you mean comfort level like for instance, I still

[00:11:11] I still am expecting like once or twice a week just to like fuck around and we're eight years in at this point. That's great. Once or twice a week. Yeah, Jesus which but a lot but the funny thing is is the whole time.

[00:11:24] I'm like man, am I doing enough? Am I doing enough same and but but two times I think is great and we have to plan that and sometimes he's like this isn't this isn't really sexy and I'm like you try to know when you

[00:11:33] first when you first start dating someone you have separate houses and you're like, oh, I'm going to be at your house this time. So the bottom is at his house getting ready and do she because you know when you come over gonna have sex but when you both

[00:11:46] live together, there's no like mystery of like, oh, I'm going to go sneak off and do the bathrooms right there and I'm right here. There's no sneaking off and you know, I had a bottom of day

[00:11:56] for the scene that I shot and I was and I had to bottom and I haven't bought him in a long time probably a year or so. I've abottomed and because my boyfriend's he's a full bottom and most of my clients.

[00:12:08] I just tell him like I'm not going to buy him. I just don't want to deal with it and I'm just like I think this is like why I don't really ask for too much sex my boyfriend

[00:12:16] because it's so much fucking work for a bottom to do and not to feel so guilty. I'm like, hey, babe, you wanna you wanna have sex and he's like, okay. Yeah, and I could see him like well, yeah. Yeah, you think about the process.

[00:12:29] Okay, you know if you don't want to it's okay. He's like no, no, I'll be right back and I'm and by the time I'm like, yeah, you know, I tend to have the same issue.

[00:12:41] You kind of you want to do it but I don't want to be an inconvenience babe, but uh, can we have sex? I feel like yeah, and it sucks with its, you know, if you're dealing with big dicks, you have to kind of you have to clean

[00:12:54] out you have to make sure everything is good. I would not if I'm going to bottom. I'm going to make sure nothing's going to happen in bed. That's embarrassing even to this day. Like if you know, you shit the bed. It's you should you shit the bed.

[00:13:05] Like I've never done that because it's too late to wash the sheets. It's time to go to bed. I'm not trying to wait for that shit to wash through. Oh man. No, you hit you hit the nail on the head with that.

[00:13:17] So I appreciate I appreciate your honor and also like I think when your relationship people don't realize this because we're monogamous. I don't we're not open. I do clients and videos stuff but like on a regular basis.

[00:13:29] I'm not like we're not out there like looking for sex more dudes and I think men are horniest when they're single because there's a hunt involved if there's no hunt involved. Then like what's the point? I'm not I'm not that horny.

[00:13:43] I've already got what I want, you know, and it's like, you know, like you would go to the club because it's like, oh, I want to meet somebody like have sex all of all. Yeah, no hunt. So it's like I'm not I'm not hungry because there's no hunt.

[00:13:55] There's this idea that people have and you had mentioned this to the other day where you know, they think they can call you at one in the morning and expect you to be up waiting for them

[00:14:08] waiting for that phone call so that you can come over and and you know, they can hire you as an escort. Why does that not work for you? Well because I'm not one of these meth addict escorts and I

[00:14:20] go to bed very early and I wake up very late and I just can't I miss so much money. I could be a millionaire by now. If I could just stay up past midnight if I could just do that

[00:14:32] because I always wake up to like five or six clients call. I'm like fuck man so much money, but I was just like like last night. I was laying in bed and I'm like, okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna make sure that I'm not gonna miss any clients tonight.

[00:14:46] I'm gonna do it. So I would set my alarm for like every 30 minutes would wake me up so I could check my phone. I'm like, okay, no one's called someone set my alarm. Oh god. Okay. All right. Then someone would message me. I'm like, oh god, please.

[00:14:58] Please let it just be a fake so I could just go back to sleep. I don't actually want to work. So you do want to do it? Yeah, so I'll check the Mr. Numbers. I don't know if anyone on the podcast if you've ever heard of Mr.

[00:15:07] Numbers is the most important tool in an escorts arsenal. Okay of safety. So what is Mr. Numbers? Mr. Numbers is an app where you can put a phone number who whoever text you phone number into this app and it will it will tell you

[00:15:22] you know how like rent men you could leave reviews for the escorts. Well, this is basically our way of leaving reviews for our clients and be like all this person's a fake this person to pick like there's some people have 30 something comments because

[00:15:36] it'll be all like spam spam spam spam. So it's almost like rate my rate my John or rate my yeah. Okay. It is really it's such a lifesaver because you know, I will I ask for deposits because I'm not trying to you know, set my

[00:15:50] day up and then that person does not show up. I ask for like a 10% deposit and then some people don't ask for deposit. I'm like you're really risking a lot because this could be just some person who's messaging at all the escorts just to fuck

[00:16:06] with them because I've been sent to wrong addresses, you know, I've been just dicked around all kind of and I'm not dealing with that. I'm sure you've seen a little bit of everything. Yeah, when when it comes to the weirdest thing that someone's

[00:16:18] ever asked you to do as an as an escort, but what can you remember what's what's one of the weirdest thing? He this one person in Dallas wanted me to shit and Tupperware and he wanted to eat it. Oh, wow.

[00:16:33] Okay and mail it to him or no, he wanted to come to my hotel and get it. Oh, so he okay. So he was packing for for did not agree to that because I'm like I would not be able to look at you and I hand you this

[00:16:45] Tupperware full of shit. I'm sorry. Yeah. That's wrong. And also I don't my bowels. I can't possibly predict. I can't tell you that I'm going to be able to shit in this Tupperware today. It could be tomorrow.

[00:16:59] I'll have to just I'll do it and I'll just send an uber whenever it comes by. I don't know. That's another reason I like bottoming get this so unpredictable well eat a lot of vegetables. I don't have a lot of fucking ass everywhere depending on what he wants.

[00:17:14] Yeah, I once dated this guy who was a lawyer and he was into water sports, but he like wanted to drink pee and I was like, oh, I don't know if I can do this and one of our first dates. He's like, hey come in.

[00:17:27] He said, do you want a glass of water? And I'm like, no, I'm good. You want some coffee or beer? And I was like, I'm good. And eventually I realized he was just trying to get me full

[00:17:36] of stuff so that I can pee on him and obviously it didn't work but still like that's I feel like. I had to pee on someone today. Yeah, okay. My clients always peed on him. But I do not like I will not let someone drink it like from

[00:17:47] my dick like some people want to put their mouth around your dick. I can't do that for something's wrong with my I don't know what it is, but it is the most painful thing on the planet to me.

[00:17:56] Well, maybe it's because you're used to just standing in front of a toilet or urinal or something and peeing there. Maybe do you are you pee shy then like no, no, I can do it. Okay, that was just so wanted.

[00:18:06] No, no, it's like, um, I'll be peeing and if the client puts my dick in their mouth as I'm peeing it will send shockwaves of pain throughout my body and I'll start peeing blood. Oh wow. Yeah, it happened. I remember the first time it happened.

[00:18:17] I'm like, what the fuck is this? Because like I was peeing and they they sucked it as I was peeing and I like convulsing it was unfaithful and then the rest of the day. I was like peeing chunky blood out of my dick.

[00:18:28] I'm like, what could this fucking possibly be so every since then I've told people like don't I'll pee on you but don't grab it and don't put your mouth and this one person he was high

[00:18:36] and he did it and I had to punch him down like as soon as he put his lips just close to the head. I started like sending shockwaves of pain. I had to pop him. Damn. Like I told you not to fucking do it.

[00:18:49] Did he still pay you after that? Oh, of course. He probably liked it. You probably did you know, I have so many people that want to want me to like beat them up like I want you to punch me. I'm like I'm not doing that.

[00:19:01] That's the weirdest thing that you had which is pretty weird in my in my eyes the the shit in the in the Tupperware. I'm still good, but I will do any in a sec and I'll do it raw. Um, have you had any famous people? Mm-hmm.

[00:19:16] No, no, so it's just no regular clients that pay you and okay. What do you usually get to you get like Europeans Latinos? No, just a little like I could okay. I was just yeah, I don't get see a lot of these the all of

[00:19:32] these escort like all this client with this really nice the penthouse blah blah blah. I don't get that shit because I get like the dirty dirty dirty methy people because they think that I'm like that because they see me in these videos being like all dirty

[00:19:48] and blah blah and they and they classy people don't want me because they don't want this walking into their fancy building and and they're they're like front desk person like what the fuck's going on up there, you know, little do

[00:20:01] they know you're such a nice guy and doesn't matter on drugs and not like that's that's cool. There's a lot of people who commented on the podcast last time and I'll save them for a little bit but one of them

[00:20:16] absolutely said how they had no idea you were so eloquently spoken and also very funny. I talk real good. Yeah, I just got I spoke to you about it, but I just got demonetized on the platform on YouTube. So I got a I know I know we're demonetized.

[00:20:35] That means I'm going to say whatever I want because what's the how much lower coming up? Yeah. Well, I think I'll do to me cancel me. I know it started it started with you know, putting mature on everything which I always do anyway. This is interesting.

[00:20:48] I didn't really monetize a lot of the stuff that was because I'm doing history now this year and you just said history of just gay porn history of gay erotica and okay, but not history in general. No, there's plenty of history of gay porn.

[00:21:01] I was like, oh, I'm a World War two buff. Let's go into it. No, no, this is well this starts right after the war when all these guys start coming back and then they start having beefcake float magazines and stuff, but the censorship everything

[00:21:13] that got us to where we are today and and the freedoms that we enjoy because of the people that were thrown in jail in the 60s and the 70s fine. My thing is is don't take away my ability even though I'm not using it.

[00:21:26] Don't take away my ability and be like, oh you're using this. This is what YouTube said you're using this for sexual gratification. People are getting off to my channel. Basically. That's what they're saying. Meanwhile, there's that makes no naked people.

[00:21:38] All we're doing is talking about sex hopefully educating people and stuff, but whatever I'll fight it. It'll it'll people will be able to watch this interview. Let's just say that's all that matters. So what else has been going on? You're you're pretty much married, right? No.

[00:21:54] Well, I am married technically, but yeah, we're gonna I gotta still gotta get divorced before I marry this one. Oh wait, so you you are that's right. We did speak about this you were married and my ex-husband just moved in with us really?

[00:22:06] Yeah, because he was going through tough times in Miami. So I was like I said my boyfriend's like honey. Can I just go get Fabio and let him move in here? He's like, yeah, that's fine. All blah because Fabio.

[00:22:18] Yeah, we're technically married but we were only to get for like a year or so and after that we were just stayed married. He's my best friend. He's like a brother to me like and I my biggest fear of my whole life because I don't know.

[00:22:30] I've always worried about him just like life in general. I don't think he just I don't think he was prepared for life, especially in America. He's from Brazil. Okay, and my biggest fear throughout my whole several years of being with him is like I'm really worried that

[00:22:48] one day I'm just going to drive by and he's gonna be homeless or something. I can't have Fabio being homeless. So I ran the car drove down to Miami picked him up came right back. And then I have another friend from DC just moved into and

[00:23:08] we have a one bedroom like duplex Jesus. So it's like me and me and my boyfriend had the bedroom and that the end my friend and Fabio have on the bedroom. I mean the living room. I'm like what the fuck is going on right? Yeah. How's that situation?

[00:23:21] I mean, it's only I mean, I don't know because this was just this past week and I wouldn't got Fabio Monday and come back Tuesday and then I came here on Wednesday. So I don't know my boyfriend's dealing with it right now.

[00:23:32] I'm like, honey, I'm gonna get them and they're just going to live here. They're like, okay, bye. And then bye take care of it. Thanks. But I mean, I guess it's getting along fine because you know, we just moved there and we didn't really have any friends.

[00:23:43] So it's nice, you know, you know that we have people there even though it's just it's a lot because we can know me and my boyfriend were just used to us being in the house by ourselves and when you're driving this ice cream truck,

[00:23:56] let's get back to the business, right? When you're driving this ice cream truck and you pull up to I'm assuming kids or a lot of stuff. Okay, we do special events. Okay. It's not just like we're driving around the neighborhood. It's not like Mr. Softy.

[00:24:11] Sometimes we do that but not very often. It's more like us. We have events that we have to go do festivals that kind of stuff really really cool. That's actually a really good business. Yeah, it's not just like a regular ice cream. It's a franchise.

[00:24:23] It's a it's a okay popsicle thing. Okay, so then you guys bought into a franchise and then you drive around that's a really really good business, but it is sweet, but I did get depressed from it a lot

[00:24:35] actually because we do do like we go to like preschools and stuff or just like any kind of family thing and it makes me really depressed because like I see all these kids in these families. I'm like man and not so good situations or no, they're though.

[00:24:52] They're happy. Oh, that makes me sad. Oh, I hate happy people. That's what pisses me off so bad. No, no, like kids because you know, I want kids and it's like all these people have kids and all his your ice cream

[00:25:01] and you know, do you and that's something that came up to a lot of people were very happy and and they were glad they were like wow like his his most dream job in the world is to have kids.

[00:25:14] Do you use so this is still this is still one of your dreams? Yeah, of course. Yeah, I've already named him and everything. Yeah, I just got to get him somehow. So I'm just playing devil's advocate here because I wanted

[00:25:24] kids to but fuck I had to take care of our nieces and nephews one day with my boyfriend and we were with him for five hours. We barely could talk about adult stuff because they were watching. I don't talk about adult stuff anyway. So you talk about it.

[00:25:39] Don't stop to well, I mean, you know like oh we got to do this or we I couldn't do any work because you know, God forbid my work like they look at my work or anything like that. But well my work is ice cream.

[00:25:47] So what do you do? I don't do anything. But it almost felt like we paused for like four or five hours because we were we were babysitting and I was like wow, this would you also have anything about that was your nephew and that's not your child true.

[00:26:00] Yeah, you're whenever you're around other people's children. You're very much more conscious of what you're saying and like worried about like, oh my god, it's like I don't know what their parents are trying to teach them and blah blah blah.

[00:26:09] So you're gonna be like that but we're like with your own children. I think it's a lot easier. Okay, so you're gonna be like that. Yeah, I'm gonna be like that. I'm gonna be like that. I'm gonna be like that. I think it's a lot easier.

[00:26:18] Okay, but it's still but I got in my life. We don't do anything. I mean, I can't think of anything like, you know, I sell ice cream. My boyfriend works at Lowe's when we're home. We watch Adventure Time and cartoons if you've already

[00:26:34] named your boy or girl, I prefer boy. Okay, but if I have both names for both for both, okay. So if you've heard they're not approved by my boyfriend, he approves them when he's drunk and then when he's somebody like what we're gonna call them.

[00:26:47] What what can do you mind if I ask what yeah, my son's name is gonna be Chevy Chevy. Okay. I love Chevy Chase and I love Chevys. Okay. I'm a huge Chevy dude and my daughter's gonna be Shamal Shamal. It's my favorite Maserati both named after cars. Obviously.

[00:27:04] Okay. I don't know if you've noticed but I am white trash. So yes, they will be named after cars. Yeah, but Maserati is not really white trash. Is it a Shamal? Is it really? Okay, I'm not early 90s trashy. When you do have these kids,

[00:27:22] how are you gonna tell them would you be open about like having done porn and stuff in the past? No, why not? They won't even know what porn is. They won't be allowed on the internet. They won't have social media.

[00:27:34] Yeah, but wouldn't you well, you're not on social media, right? So it's not okay. So I can see that being easy, but wouldn't that be a hindrance especially in the world that we're going into like everybody has to have stuff.

[00:27:44] I've met parents that do stop their kids or limit them from being on the internet, but I feel like it's a double. I've been I mean, I'll just be like a relic. Nobody will remember what Shondurant is. I will. Well, people will know people.

[00:28:02] I just don't think I just don't think so because by the time I have them, we most likely won't be doing this anymore. And it's just like there's so much new stuff coming out. My shit would get pushed down to the bottom of the pile on Google.

[00:28:14] I know where I fit in and I know where I don't fit in. That's the thing of some people that I don't like that like, oh, everyone's just as good as everybody else. No, they're not. Okay. I understand. I'm not as good as some other people.

[00:28:27] Well, I mean everybody serves a purpose their purpose in what we're doing here, right? But some some people's purpose are more important than others. My purpose is not that important porn is not that important. It's actually I think it's very detrimental to society period

[00:28:40] you so you think what you do is detrimental to very much. Okay, and I think porn in general is okay, but I will I will agree to an extent because I think that too much of anything is not good for you.

[00:28:54] However, when somebody says that it's a despicable disgusting industry, I have to kind of I went at that because of the fact that what about the pharmaceutical industry? What about Tony? Nobody's saying that's not though. How if it but nobody's saying that yes, I understand that but

[00:29:11] the thing is is they will point to this first before anything and say, oh how disgusting meanwhile, they've been marketed to and exploited to no extent by all of these other industry all day long. Yes, psoriasis commercials Crohn's disease. Yes that all day that are taking advantage people.

[00:29:30] They have Crohn's disease exact don't say we're dirty when Hollywood is dirtier and has been dirty for the longest time when the pharmaceutical industry is dirtier or has been dirtier for the longest time, but you're taking again. You're taking that out of context.

[00:29:46] He didn't he had did not say that that's no, those are not despicable, but I'm pretty sure pointing out what is despicable. I understand but I'm pretty sure I'm defending someone. I know it does not like me. No, but that's but that's me. I defend truth and honor.

[00:30:00] I just I defend shit that I see right if someone tells me like oh you did this. I'm like, you know, you're right. I did do that. I just you know, there's you know, what porn is not good for

[00:30:10] society, but neither is this whiskey and people still buy it and people still sell it. There's a lot of things that are not good for society not good, but they're still there and I just think that and no, I'm not I'm not super proud of being an industry.

[00:30:22] That's not good for us and people people always want to say oh, what do you mean? It's not good for society like people need porn people don't need porn and it actually makes it harder for people to be in

[00:30:32] relationships, you know, I think it makes it harder for people to have sex in general one thing. I noticed that you said the other day when we were we were hanging out. Okay. Well, you know, I'll watch porn you watch porn with your boyfriend

[00:30:44] and we're we'll be happy that way. Do you feel that way? Do you leave? Oh, you may have you may have had a whiskey at that point. What did I say? When was this? What day was this?

[00:30:52] I can't remember but you you said I didn't I've only drinking yesterday. So then you had said, you know, that's fine. I'll be happy. I'll watch porn and jerk off and then you can watch your porn and jerk off and we're still will still be happy.

[00:31:07] You know, that sounds like something I possibly could have said. I don't remember doing it. I don't know. I think I think what it is that comes back to like being relationship and like sex sex life so people in relationships.

[00:31:19] We have to hide and like jerk off because you know, you're not gonna have sex that day probably and it's going to be an inconvenience if you want to have sex the other person. Okay, so like, you know, I'll go to the bathroom.

[00:31:27] I'm just real quick because I know that he's probably doing it too, but we don't talk about it. We'll see. That's the thing. I have designated days not designated but we have days where I'm like you want some you want some time for yourself or

[00:31:39] my boyfriend will ask. Hey, you know, I'm going to take some time today. I think that's healthy. I think that's okay. You know, like are you Puerto Rican? No, my boyfriend Puerto Rican. No, then that's how you get away with that. Yeah. I'm not no. No, no, no.

[00:31:54] Yeah. Well, my you know, my my they don't have that kind of sensibility be like why why do you want it? Why don't you drop up? But because I know you don't want to have sex either but my father's Cuban.

[00:32:02] So I do know that hot that spicy Latino like that much easement, right? I love how Latino people call it spiciness. It like you're just spiciness. It's just a little just a little fun or argumentative is what people call it for being an asshole.

[00:32:16] Yeah, honestly, they are committed and problematic. Oh, you know, it's just something spicy. You know, something spicy like my my boyfriend's like, I don't know just and a lot of Latin people be like, I just have to argue and just add a little spiciness.

[00:32:29] Why do you have such a boring? I'm like or how about just peace how I I'm all about peace, but I'm very passionate. I will say that so I again the word passionate means he wants to argue about shit. He loved it. Y'all love to say that shit.

[00:32:42] You know, the thing is, is I will argue but then the thing is, is you got to get that shit out and then after it's out. Okay, cool. We're good, you know, but if you don't talk about shit than that's my boyfriend.

[00:32:53] He loves to argue but he has no reason he argues without reasoning. He argues without any kind of points any kind of argument at all any kind of and I'll be like and I just everything he says I immediately shut it down with with evidence fact-based evidence.

[00:33:09] I'm like actually if you look at this and there's one receipt, you're extremely wrong and you're fucking annoying and go to bed. He's like no, I don't believe you. I'm like, well, I can tell you I'll even have like my location set up my phone.

[00:33:20] Like where were you today? I'm like, well, if you'd like to look on your phone, you see able to see where I was and everything that you're saying is absolutely incorrect. Yeah. No, I sorry. We don't have any of that stuff.

[00:33:30] No, my so my boyfriend's German and Italian and kind of grew up in a situation where you don't really talk about stuff too much. So you and Germans, you know how they are man. They fucking they pent up all that shit and then one day

[00:33:43] it's going to explode and I always tell him I was like, I don't want that shit to explode on me. I don't want to be that person because I don't know me honey. No, but the thing is I didn't contribute to all that, you

[00:33:51] know, like there's definitely other factors. So sometimes he'll come home from work and stuff and he's like, you can tell he's pissy and he's moody and I'm like, I didn't I didn't do this. You know, you need to talk to the person that did this

[00:34:04] because I'll do that with people like if somebody pisses me off on on like the street or on the sidewalk or something. I'm like, excuse me, you're an asshole or something and you explain why and then you go from there and that's

[00:34:14] fine and they can either take in a good way or we get into fight. No, I don't know if I'm upset if I'm feeling like in a bad mood and it's not about my boyfriend. I'll tell him I'm like honey. I'm sorry. I'm in a bad mood.

[00:34:24] I just had a blah blah blah but my boyfriend would everything will be fine because he goes through phases. I know that it's going to be two weeks of him being decent and be around and then the next week is going to be I'm

[00:34:35] like God has been and then it'll switch. I swear to God it will switch like that. He'll be like, huh? And then be like, I'm like, hey honey. Wait, what sign is like what's I might? Oh, I don't know. What was his birthday August? Okay. Oh, he's Leo.

[00:34:53] Yeah, there you go. So it's like I'm like, oh, hey honey, but I'm like what's wrong? I like oh Jesus fuck. Well, honey, what happened? What happened from the time when we were just having a good time to right now? It makes no sense. What do I said?

[00:35:10] I you didn't do nothing. I am fine. I'm like, oh my God and I'm like, I'm just leave you home. You know what? I'm like, we're just going to call because I can't do anything. I can't function with that shit. But you like but you like Latinos.

[00:35:24] Yeah, yeah, cuz I lived in Miami. What else am I gonna fuck? There's nothing else there but and then now I'm home in North Carolina. I'm like all these white guys. I bet they you're I bet they have actual reasons for being upset and the rational thinking people.

[00:35:48] And he'll just like if say if I go to the store and it generally takes me five minutes and I take six minutes. Oh, you are this right very long. Why were you there? Huh? Was someone there? Always it I'm like, are you fucking crazy?

[00:36:00] One of the things that I thought that was very interesting that you said the other day too is there's a lot of Mexican Cowboys. Fuck it was in North Carolina. Love that shit and Asian redneck. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of a lot of redneck Laotian people really.

[00:36:16] I used to be so into that shit. You know, like cuz I used to work at this Japanese restaurant my first job and I worked there for a long time and I used to work at a nail salon because they used to do nails.

[00:36:25] So I thought I was Asian and then so all the time these these other like Laotian people because the majority of all the Asian people in North Carolina are Vietnamese and Laotian. So these Laotian guys will come in and they talk like is like hey, how you doing?

[00:36:42] I'm just going to get chicken. I'm like fuck my ovaries would explode and they'd have tattoos everywhere fucking thugged out redneck Asian dude. Did they have like shredders and shit? Like did they wear shredders? No, okay. No, we never shredders. Shredders. Yeah, shredders are also like Southern. Yeah.

[00:37:01] Yeah, my daddy would wear them. Yeah, we've been watching this thing on YouTube. That's what's that? What's that place called like cold country and West Virginia Appalachian Appalachia. Yeah, right. I see so I'm like so beautiful.

[00:37:16] Yeah, so beautiful and that area is God but yeah, I know I know I think I have love you know, because I love Zillow because I don't have I'm in a relationship. I don't have grinder. That's Zillow is my grinder. Oh my God, dude. I'll go on Zillow.

[00:37:30] I'm like a god if we just lived in West Virginia with these fucking inbreds we could live in a mansion a mansion. I feel like that gorgeous houses. Yeah that area I think is definitely gonna but yeah Appalachia

[00:37:46] is gorgeous, but you know the Appalachian Trail so many people go missing and get murdered on that trail. Why is this like a several hundred mile like hiking trail? Some people get murdered on that shit. Okay. Well, I'm definitely not going on that trail.

[00:37:58] I mean I got you know, I'm not going to I have a lot of smiles. I'll drive it. I'm not gonna fucking walk it. What makes you a Republican? What makes me Republican? I don't know. I disagree with everything Republicans say and I just super

[00:38:12] disagree with everything that liberals and Democrats say so then you're not a Republican. You're probably an independent. No, I'm Republican. I feel like this is such a dirty word now. What? The fact that you just said I realized that I'm a Republican

[00:38:27] and you're a porn star and you're a gay porn star. Okay, here's the thing. Republican has nothing to do with being gay has nothing to do with being anything. It's just your beliefs. I feel like you have more conservative values, but I'm so conservative always been conservative.

[00:38:44] I've been like the most conservative gay porn star. I'm like, I don't know. No, I've definitely come across a couple that are I mean, of course, I can't do everything in my life conservative. I know it's very difficult to do that because you got to

[00:38:56] think about this and I think about this a lot too because I think I have a lot of conservative values. However, I would never vote for a Republican because of the religion aspect and the gay issues if they would just get rid of that fiscally.

[00:39:12] I feel conservative about spending. Well, I'm not religious at all. Okay, I don't believe in Christianity, but when I do have kids, I want them to go to church and I want them to believe in Christianity. But why because I want them to believe in something because

[00:39:24] I've lived my entire life not being able to believe in it and it's I felt very lost and very scared about death and all that stuff, but I don't want my I want my children to believe in something even if it's the stupidest shit.

[00:39:35] But what about believing in themselves? Because that's a big thing. You believe in yourself. No, no fucking truth, but that's so stupid. No, no, but there's there's there's also believe in themselves, but also but it's more about like what happens in the afterlife.

[00:39:47] What so you believe in an afterlife? So then you're I don't I don't know but I prefer my children to fully believe that if they're good and they can go to heaven and stuff like even if I believe even if I know that's

[00:39:59] fucking stupid, but I want my kids to be able to just like people want their kids to leave in Santa Claus on the truth fairy. Yeah, just so they could have their name to them. They're like, yeah, but they're giving them something to

[00:40:08] believe in but if you and my thing doesn't come from a liberal aspect it comes from from Buddhism honestly, which is what I think is the most sounds queer. It sounds clear. But the thing is is of all the religions out there the ones

[00:40:25] that the one that actually sounds like real life treat other people. Well, yeah or how you want to be treated is Buddhism. Yeah, but where do you go when you die in Buddhism you come back? So that's that's a good thing for hey, you know be better be

[00:40:41] better. So that way when you come back, you'll be in a different place. I just being Buddhist keeps your mind open to a lot of other possibilities and being Christian closes your mind to possibilities and I want my kids minds to be closed possibility.

[00:40:56] Why do you that doesn't make any sense though? You can't do does it you why would you want your kids to be close-minded? You can't do that because then you fully believe these Christians listen, you want limitate you want? Yes, these Christians want Bally's fucking believe.

[00:41:11] That it was Adam and Eve and they fully fucking believe in all this shit, but those are shit, but they'll drive in cars that are fueled by fossils. Yes, but that doesn't believe it though. Let them believe it doesn't make any sense. Christian makes no sense at all.

[00:41:27] Everything that I hear about Christian like that makes no fucking sense, but they believe it and they live their life by it and they're at peace. I want my children to be at peace. Okay. Well, you can still be at peace and you can't be because I'm

[00:41:40] not at peace. I'm terrified of the afterlife. All right. Well peace and afterlife very very different. No, it's not. I don't think so. Well because if you don't know what's going to happen next you're always gonna be like you're always gonna be worried. You're always gonna be worried.

[00:41:52] I don't want my kids to be worried. Okay. So what do you think happens in the afterlife? I don't know. I don't know. Have you had those those discussions with yourself or have when I'm stoned? Yeah, that's why I don't smoke weed anymore because that's all

[00:42:05] I could think about like if I see if I see like a documentary about like space or anything else. If I'm like, nope, no, no, no, no, nope. Nope. Nope. I don't want to think about I don't want to think about it.

[00:42:15] No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I will I will take a gummy or I'll smoke and we'll hang out and literally I'll lay my head back and the only thing I can think of is what the fuck severe anxiety.

[00:42:27] We are this big. Yeah, and there's that much more anxiety, but you know why but you know why we think that because we're open-minded because you're a Buddhist and I don't have religion and I'm able to think outside but Christians are closed-minded.

[00:42:41] They know what they know they in their heart. They know what's going to happen. So they don't even have to think about that and I want my children to not have to think about that. They don't know because we don't do know nobody knows that's the thing.

[00:42:53] I don't know that's that but they believe they know they but that's dangerous because if you believe you know something then you think that every you know, everything that you know is right. Uh-huh. And there's there's a lot wrong with that because then they

[00:43:04] can tell you what to do. They can tell me what to do Christians can't tell me what to do. They're trying if you're in the Christian Church, they can tell you what to do. But if you believe in something enough, you can absolutely

[00:43:16] affect the communities that you're in and make stuff happen for your religion. And if if you are an American you believe in the separation of church and state we have to be able to separate these and a lot of times there's no separation for instance like the

[00:43:33] Roe v. Wade thing. Let's talk about we can we can you know, I don't do it. I'm no we don't have to do it. But the thing is I get canceled for that Roe v. Wade shit. We don't have but the thing is is that's a perfect example

[00:43:44] of here are people who don't agree with abortion. I don't agree with abortion. I don't agree with it, but I'm not going to stop this person just like I don't want anybody stopping me from having sex with whoever want to have sex with in my room.

[00:43:59] This podcast is going to be fun and you guys talk about something else because I don't agree with it. Look, I just want to address the idea like there's plenty of non-christians who believe everything that Republicans have to say.

[00:44:11] Well, I think a lot of I think a lot of Republicans aren't really Christian. No, they're not. No, they're not. I'm not here's the thing. It's religion is a tool and it's a weapon and it can be weaponized and that's the only reason why listen the point

[00:44:23] the point this whole this whole religion thing came to like do I want my kids to be Christian just so that they can have peace of mind. I'm not trying to make I'm not trying to have Christian policies.

[00:44:33] I just want my kids to not have to worry about the afterlife. Okay, but I don't know how this got turned into Roe v. Wade. I just want my kids to know I don't I want my kids when they get high on smoke weed.

[00:44:44] I don't want to think like where do we go when we die? I want to be like but they're going to do that. I feel like everybody has that thought. Yeah, but Christians don't well, how do you know are you in like you're not in there?

[00:44:54] You they may be able to suppress my family. I have missionaries. Missionaries in my family and preachers preachers and missionaries and shit in my family. They believe that shit they're into it and I'm happy for them.

[00:45:06] I think I wish I could look I think that in a good person faith is amazing. Yeah, but that's also an extension of your attitude because I'm I guess what I'm saying is I'm when I am as not atheist. I'm agnostic.

[00:45:20] I know but I believe there's something there but I don't know what it is. I don't think he really cares what we do down here, but being agnostic atheism is a freedom, but it's also not comforting at all. Not at all.

[00:45:35] But that but that I don't think that life is comfy. I think that we're here and Christianity gives these Christians some kind of comfort and I would prefer my children to be comforted in some way but you know at some point something

[00:45:49] happened to you and to me to say this is not the answer this is not the answer and if you've reason yeah, so hopefully my children won't have that kind of IQ but look just like just like Santa Claus right eventually you find out that Santa

[00:46:05] Claus is real. I remember I remember my feelings and I remember where I was when I found out but I remember how I found out and I remember crying my parents never instilled that in me. I knew that they bought all of our stuff really? Yeah.

[00:46:16] Well, I also was watching TV much younger than I was I should have been granted it was during the 80s. So it was a better time to watch TV. Why shouldn't have watched TV before you I was definitely watching R-rated movies at like 7 or 8 my parents were working

[00:46:29] all day. I never watched I didn't watch cartoons. I watched Seinfeld and friends. Yeah, we'll see I knew that I knew that Santa Claus wasn't real almost from the get I think it was adorable. It's a nice tradition to think that Santa Claus is real, but

[00:46:41] I knew that my parents were breaking their asses to try and buy us gifts and I guess I don't I think I figured out when I was 8. I guess I don't remember how I found out but yeah, and even

[00:46:53] to the point where when I guess I did have reason I'm like I asked my mom. I was like it's not real. She's like no and I remember sitting on our blue velvet couch with our mirror furniture because we're from the trailer

[00:47:09] park and it was it was it was early 90s. Yeah, do in the night. Yeah, and our precious moment figurines and I was just started crying. I just cried for hours. Yeah. Well, I mean there's if anything what we should do life is

[00:47:30] not everything that we should do everything in our power to make our children's lives easier fine. But the thing is is once you let those kids go into the world one way or another they will discover that life is

[00:47:41] not what it what everybody says it is and it is North Carolina. Okay. All right. Well, I've yet to go to North Carolina. God, it's it's it's insane. There's literally a church every like a start like Starbucks here. There's churches. It's so crazy. Like we were driving.

[00:47:56] I'm like we should have a game. We should take a shot every time we pass the church. We be fucking wasted. Yeah trash. There's like just on street side. Did you think are just residential? There's like a church there like what the fuck is this?

[00:48:08] How are there this many people that go to church? There's I don't watch a lot of Lifetime movies, but I know that exists if life can be a Lifetime movie all the time and all of our names will be Tanya.

[00:48:20] Yeah, I know and our something would be happening for Christmas kids are coming home all that stuff. It's absolutely gorgeous. But the thing is is we have to live outside of that because it's not real and it's very unfortunate but the kids come up for Christmas.

[00:48:36] Yeah kids home. What cook like, you know, we got to bake this pie and we got to do this and all that stuff and Carol who does that? Nobody does that the Lifetime channel does that do people Carol in North Carolina to they do fuck.

[00:48:50] I'm all the other things you're saying that doesn't happen does happen. What? Okay. So then I can I've gotten insanely screwed. No, I don't we don't I don't care. I don't care but I've seen Carolers and actually so I live

[00:49:00] in Gastonia Cramerton and it's all these cities and we have a town called McAdville and it's literally called an exvil. Huh is it mechanicsville? It's not which is mccaddenville mccaddenville and it's Christmastown USA. Okay, the entire town if when you buy a house there you have

[00:49:16] to sign paperwork saying that you will put up X amount of Christmas lights because people people come from hundreds of miles to go to mechanical. It's so beautiful. It is and it's such a togetherness togetherness in this fucking giant traffic line that lasts for hours, but it's nice.

[00:49:31] It's you it is it I because here's the thing a lot of gay people that are watching this like all people don't do that people because everyone when you're gay you leave your hometown you came to New York. I went to Miami some people go to LA.

[00:49:46] But the majority of people were the minority of people. The majority of people are straight and they stay in their hometowns and they stay with their family and they do all these things that are in mainstream media because that

[00:49:58] mainstream media should reflect what this is not nuts that we produce from New York and California and but that's the problem with God. I'm hammering know what here I'm going to go because the new movies now are being produced in all these major cities

[00:50:11] where all these liberal ideas are coming from so the putting them in these video in these movies that people that the majority of the population in America don't agree with so we're not going to see these movies. I'm not going to see this shit.

[00:50:24] Like you're not reflecting true life. You're reflecting true life and your tiny communities in New York and LA and that's not what's happening in the rest of the world, you know, yeah, but I want I'm saying is gay people. Yeah, sure.

[00:50:36] We leave our we leave our families and go to these big cities because it's hard because I left North Carolina because all the gay people there were not cute and I was going to be single for us my life is like I need to go to Florida.

[00:50:50] So I went to Florida and you know, I was able to find my boyfriend and now I've imported him up to North Carolina. So now I could be back with my family and in the real world but with my cute boyfriend who I would not have been

[00:51:04] found so you've seen and because you've been in Cal you've been in LA. There's several versions of there. I mean the real world, you know, there's no real world. There's because you know, there's my life. It's the Matrix. You're going to follow around a fucking Matrix.

[00:51:23] I'm like, I'm getting real. I'm like, I'm gonna call Joe Rogan up real quick. No, cuz you know, my mom, you know, my family lives in their world, which is North Carolina, which is, you know, go to work and kind of house and blah blah and you know,

[00:51:37] I here I am. I go to different cities and escort and I have sex with people for money and blah blah. There's a lot of people who don't realize that even happens, you know, and there's people in my world in the whole

[00:51:49] escort and porn world that don't even realize that, you know, people go to church and bake pies and have family gatherings of like that. They don't think that's even even a real thing anymore, but it is it's all a real thing. It's all the real world.

[00:52:03] It all happens together and we have to respect everything but we don't have to push our shit onto other people. I agree with that to an extent for sure. I don't want you to limit your kids minds. That's it.

[00:52:14] That's the only thing I just for the sake of their happiness because my mind was not limited and I'm left you're left with even more questions than answers. No, I understand that but imagine imagine okay when you're

[00:52:24] gone and your kids are 40 and all of a sudden they're like fuck like this is because you know shit like that happens. I've met people that in their 60s are like wow, like what did I do with my life people in their 20s people when you

[00:52:39] start figuring out I'm not trying to trap my children into something. I just want them to believe in heaven. You are you are taking this to tell me. Well, no, because I just want them to believe in heaven. Okay. All right.

[00:52:55] All right and to get good grades and be good. Okay. All right. Help old ladies across the street. Goddamn. I could I still I've helped old ladies. I love helping. I know I know my boyfriend even said this the other day.

[00:53:07] He was like he said the thing I like about you is like you just help random people. You just do shit for people nothing wrong with that. Yeah, I feel like I just want to like I don't know how to you want to connect. Yeah.

[00:53:23] So where does Shondurant go from here to the bathroom? Well, no, I gotta go to Covington, Tennessee to buy this truck. Maybe I don't know. No, I before first though. I have to go to Fort Lauderdale because I gotta get this car fix.

[00:53:37] So my ex-husband was driving my car for like a year or so, you know while we were traveling or living in LA. He was driving my car without a license. Obviously expired tags. Obviously no insurance obviously because damn that's how we are.

[00:53:50] I was gonna say how do you get away with all that shit? But it's in Florida. You ever been it's wonderful. You can do whatever you want. I've been many times and every I hate not being a Florida

[00:54:01] I hate not being a Florida every time I go like the other day. I got as soon as I pass. I'm like I can feel the warm embrace of my father. Ron DeSantis and I love I get so excited. I'm like, oh daddy. I'm back.

[00:54:14] Like I said, my family's Cuban American and a lot of them live in Florida and we don't particularly agree with a lot of things. I understand their point of view but and that's that's an important thing is you don't have to agree with where people's

[00:54:30] politics are or you don't have to agree but you have to respect where they've been. Yes, and you shouldn't have them canceled off Twitter. They should be allowed to say what they have to say. Well, I don't think any of my family any of my abuela and shit

[00:54:43] like that aren't on Twitter or X as they call it now X. Yes people like oh, what do you have? What's your ex handle? I'm like the fuck what the fuck is that mean? I've been off Twitter for that long.

[00:54:54] I I've only been off Twitter for like seven months and apparently it's already changed this X thing. Are you planning on doing any social media? No, are you planning on doing any content creation? You're such a content creator. Do you want to do a collab?

[00:55:06] We should do a collab. Oh my God, no collabs. I'm not your future. Well shit. I hate all people call it collabs when I was on Twitter and when I when I tried to do some kind of just her fans, but I'm

[00:55:15] just too lazy people like do you want to collab? I'm like like are you gonna like rap and I'm gonna sing like a song. What are you talking about? Oh, you mean fuck on camera together? That's not a collab Shug. So no, I'm not gonna use social media.

[00:55:29] All right, because not because of any kind of political reasons or anything. I just do it because I just I can't I can't scroll all day long. I have it really hampers my ability to live constantly scrolling constantly like that person's life is so great and

[00:55:48] their life is not great. It's just filters. Yeah, because any picture you see on me on social media where it looked like my life was great. I was lying. That's just a filter. My life was not great.

[00:55:59] I wish I didn't have to be on social media as much as I do, but I just you know, there's no way to continue doing even this or work without that being a part of your life. So well, you know people said that about porn acting.

[00:56:15] I don't need it but I mean, I guess when you're such a legend you don't really have to have that, you know, yeah legendary this fucking hieroglyphs of me and poor. Digging in the Great Pyramid like oh look at this ancient hieroglyph of Shondurans.

[00:56:32] Well, you know, that's something to think about like, you know, 3,000 years into the future someone's going to find a DVD or V8. No, not VHS. But a DVD of Shondurans on the cover. They don't make DVDs anymore. Do they? They do. No, they make Blu-rays.

[00:56:50] No, but there's still a market for DVDs. We can't end it on this. We can't end on this. End cut. We have to talk about something else before we do. Let's talk about the notes, the fruit floral notes of this bourbon. I've bastardized it.

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